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chiefwiggum
Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2012 8:32:53 PM

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was doing a bit on a 1:72 P-47 when disaster struck..i somehow managed and i dont know how to get a big dirty gluey fingerprint on the canopy,
any thing i can do to save it..im ragingCensored

Barry Evans
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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2012 8:47:39 PM

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I haven't done this myself so take for what it's worth. Sand away the finger print with the finest wet and dry paper you can find get. Then dip the canopy in Klear/future floor polish.

I haven't built many planes but when I'm putting windows in trucks etc I use PVA glue or even Future




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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2012 9:03:29 PM

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thanks pat might have to give it a go..i have the tamiya paper here in p1200,p1500 and p2000
would nailpolish remover work?


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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:35:36 PM

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Don't touch it with nail polish remover as that contains (depending on the formula) Acetone which eats into plastic.

Go to a Boots or Tesco and pick up a nail file/ buffer in the cosmetics isle. These are usually fine grade files with one side divided into two abrasive surfaces and the other side is a buffer. Use the abrasive side to rub out the figure print using small circular movements with water going from the lower to higher surface grade. Then buff the canopy with the polishing/buffing side. If you have Tamiya compounds use them to bring the canopy up to a good shine without the need for Klear/Future. If you do have Klear (or one of it's alternatives) then dip into that.

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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2012 12:15:02 PM

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chiefwiggum wrote:
thanks pat might have to give it a go..i have the tamiya paper here in p1200,p1500 and p2000
would nailpolish remover work?


23 01 2012
To echo what others have suggested, stay away from the nail polish remover.
But...as for the sanding, I would start with 400 grit, then 600 grit, then 800, then 1200 and then 1500 and end with 2000.

The heavier grades will 'fog' the windscreen initially but as you work your way to the finer grades, the 'glass' will become clear.

Wet-sand and use a circular movement (avoids you accidently putting a flat spot on the canopy).
Buy a tube of Peek from your hardware store and give the polished canopy a little rub with it. If you wish, mask off the parts of the canopy that do not need rubbed.

Place said canopy into a small container that has future in it, put a lid on it and leave it for 24 hrs. Make sure the entire canopy is fully covered by the Future.

Take it out, place canopy on a piece of folded kitchen paper, put something like a spray-can lid over it , or whatever else might be appropiate, ( to protect from dust) and leave for a mimimum of 24 hrs ( I know modellers who would leave it for 48hrs) to cure.

No more finger-print and a crystal clear canopy.

This works as well for seams down the middle of the canopy. Also, maybe you could look into getting a set of those micro-mesh polishing sets as sold by little-cars.com

I have a set of these and they start at 1500 and go up to 12000. The pads themselves go for £10.00 and you get nine ( colour-coded ) in a set. Well worth it and the results are amazing.

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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2012 1:14:27 PM

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Lads thanks as always for the help. Some great advice in there

Barry Evans
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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2012 1:22:13 PM

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...or get a vacform replacement Bang Head

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Barry

I'd agree with Liam. Go for micro-mesh - the 8,000 and 12,000 grade cloths are really great - I use them myself for shining up finishes before adding Alclad II metal finish, and they have worked well for me over the years.

(Jason has seen an engine nacelle on an interwar SCW plane, which was done using this technique, and it actually looks like metal).

And, as Filip says, if all else fails, you can put on a vacform canopy.

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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2012 8:54:24 PM

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Barry,

I agree with the lads for Micromesh but it can be a pricey little set and if you want a cheap, quick, tried and tested method then go for the nail polishing stick with buffer and then dip into Klear. Unless you want to put the build aside and order Micromesh which every modelling tool box should have anyway. I have the Micromesh set but rarely use it on canopies mainly on paint jobs. I use the nail file method but I do have a load of different files in my collection some specially made for the job.

I would be wary of starting at 400 grit and working up. The heavier you start with, the deeper the scratches on the surface that you'll have to remove and the greater chance of taking too much plastic off the canopy. With a finger print it should be on the surface only... use heavier grit if you want to remove deep scratches. If you started at around 1000 and worked up it would be a lot better. It'll obviously take you longer to remove the finger print as you're taking off less plastic but as I said less chance of flat spots etc. The nail file is good for this method as they have a spongy centre that will conform to the curve of the canopy.

I suggest watching this video on Youtube. It's about removing canopy seam lines but the same applies to glue finger prints. He uses the nail buffers and Tamiya compound as I mentioned in my previous post and that's the method I follow these days. I did the demo at the last Cork meeting so the chaps could see the results without using Klear.

Also, like never ever feeding a Mogwai after midnight... never ever use the normal styrene glue on canopies. Use PVA/Wood/White glue or G-S Hypo glue.

Cheers

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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2012 9:00:53 PM

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thanks lads...i think im going to put it aside for the time being(im that pissed off with it) and order a micromesh set
lesson learned with the styrene.will use pva from now on

really appreciate the advice guys

barry

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