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Right!
Time to make the formal announcement!
The hard-working sub-committee who were tasked by the IPMS Ireland Committee to organise the 2011 Irish Nationals (that is, Vincent, Paul, Simon and myself) have finally found - after a LOT of searching - a good venue for the 2011 Irish Nationals. This has recently been agreed by the IPMS Ireland Committee.
The event will take place in the Carnegie Court Hotel, North Main Street, Swords, Co. Dublin, on Sunday October 2nd 2011, from 10.30 am to 5 pm. The hotel is easily reached by bus (route 33), and is just off the M1 motorway. It is about 5 km from Dublin Airport, about 10 km from Dublin Ferryport (via the Port tunnel) and has ample on-site car parking.
There will be the usual branch and SIG displays, and traders, and also the Irish Nationals modelling competition.
Also - for IPMS Ireland members who are paid up in advance - there will be the first Annual General Meeting of IPMS Ireland the previous day, Saturday October 1st, at 4.30 pm in the same hotel (but in a different room). No doubt, we will follow this by a sojurn to the restaurant and bar in the hotel for a fine meal and a few scoops, where all (including non-members) can meet and talk of things plastic, and imbibe some true Irish hospitality.
The hotel has agreed very competitive rates for the Saturday night B & B, so why not make a weekend of it? (We are also hoping to arrange for a visit to the Curragh Military Museum earlier on the Saturday - more on this later).
So - guys and gals - put this date in your calendars!
We will be using this forum topic to post further details as they emerge, including the hotel rates, arrangements for the possible trip to the Curragh, the agenda for the AGM, and of course the rules and categories for the Irish Nationals competition (once they are finalised and agreed by the committee).
Any queries in the meantime, give me a PM.
Philip
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As it's only 1 day it'll be easy for me to go up, enter, watch & admire everything else, then collect my entry at the end of the day...so definitly entering something: just not sure what yet! Still, pleanty of time yet....
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After the Dublin meet on Saturday last, July 16th, the organising committee for D1 had a meeting, and we had an initial discussion around the rules and categories for the competition. I hope to have a final set agreed with the National Committee of IPMS IRELAND within the next two weeks.
Anyone with suggestions for how the competition should be done, with what classes to have and what not to have, let me know please as soon as possible. (You can see the classes for the last nationals listed in the results page of 2010 on the website)
I would be grateful for your input.
Thanks,
Philip
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Hi Philip, Had a look through the suggested classes and it looks to be fairly extensive, with lots of choices. One quick question though, any reason why there isn't a 1:144 class for aircraft - it's 1/72 or higher? I know I've done a couple, but apart from that Ken and a couple of others have as well ( as far as I know ) and that's just the Dublin Branch! Maybe there's enough out there for its own class, maybe there isn't, but a 1:144 aircraft isn't going to have a lot of hope when up against a 1:72 aircraft I think? Just a suggestion, I'm new to all this competition lark! :) J.
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I think the category list you handed out at the meeting is pretty good although I did spot something.
All of the fixed wing aircraft have different categories for OOB and extra detail but I notice that Rotary Wing doesn't. Does that mean all helicopters, OOB and extra detailed, will be competing together?
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18 07 11 Is there any reason why the category list has only been passed out to the dublin branch? Members at the Shannon branch have not seen this and I know this as I am the chairperson of the Shannon branch. Also, I do not believe members in the Cork branch have seen this list and have not been given the oppurtunity to comment on it. Can you forward a copy of this list on to both Shannon and Cork members as well please either to the email addresses of Roy (Cork) or myself ( Liam) or through the other committee members please? Thanks in advance Liam
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Please see my earlier post.
The list of the categories is set out on the website, under the heading of the results of the 2010 Nationals. These were printed off for some of the Dublin lads on Saturday, as most would not have been to the Cork Nationals, and therefore would not have been aware of them. They were not, as suggested, "only passed on to the dublin branch". They are available on the website, as I had already stated in my earlier post.
Liam - if you want to print this off from the website and send to your branch members, then feel free. I am anxious, as I indicated in my last post, to get the views of members of IPMS IRELAND on whether there should be changes made to those categories. I have my own ideas, but of course would welcome any constructive comments from our members. I hope to finalise my recommendations, in the light of any suggestions received, for decision by the National Committee in the next 2 weeks.
Anyone with any suggestions, please post them here, or send them to me by e-mail (my e-mail address is listed on the contacts page of the ipmsireland.com website). Jason and Sean - many thanks for your comments - most helpful.
Philip
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"if you want to print this off from the website and send to your branch members"
Where are the list of catagories on the site - cant find them???? Surely all members of all chapters countrywide should have been consulted before handing out the list at the Dublin meeting last saturday, looking forward to the show but I'd hope the trench warfare that went on down in cork at the First nationals wont be repeated...
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18 07 11 There was trench warfare in Cork last year? First I heard of it. @The Fixer: from Philips earlier post: 'Anyone with suggestions for how the competition should be done, with what classes to have and what not to have, let me know please as soon as possible. (You can see the classes for the last nationals listed in the results page of 2010 on the website)' Go to the 'Events' link on the main page and click the link for the 2010 Competition Results. @Philip: 'The list of the categories is set out on the website, under the heading of the results of the 2010 Nationals. These were printed off for some of the Dublin lads on Saturday, as most would not have been to the Cork Nationals, and therefore would not have been aware of them. They were not, as suggested, "only passed on to the dublin branch".That wasn't made initially made clear but I do hope that once they are finally ready, they will be posted here on the website prehaps linked-to from the main page so that they do not get lost with-in the forum. Thank you for clarifying matters. At this point, I have no suggestions other than to agree with the other posters that 1/144 scale should be include where necessary and that prehaps the rotary wing category may need to be expanded. The Warhammer category was included initially for the Cork show as we were promised a large turn-out for that which never really materialised although the entries we did recieve were of the highest caliber. It is up to the committee as to whether the would like to include the Warhammer category this year but it may be of appeal, especially to younger modellers, if it is made known through advertising and such that there would be awards avialable for it. Liam
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Yes, the last page of the document that Homagerman has linked to is the page passed around at the Dublin meeting. More than anything it was to give newcomers, such as Jason and I, an idea of how the competition categories might look.
As to advertising Warhammer; I could always take some leaflets and bring them to the Games Workshop store on Liffey Street and the gaming store on Jervis Street to drum up some interest.
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Thank you - a lot clearer now.
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Evening Folks Please see link below to view the categories and results from 2010 http://www.ipmsireland.com/events/nationals2010results.htmThe full list of categories & classes from Cork 2010 that was issued to the people at the Dublin meeting on Saturday is as follows: Juniors Class Description of Class J01 Modellers under 16 years on date of competition Aircraft Class Description of Class A01 Civil, 1/144 and smaller A02 Civil, larger than 1/144 A03 Military, jets / props, 1/72 and smaller (Standard kit) A04 Military, jets / props, 1/72 and smaller (Any Source Detailed) A05 Military, jets / props, 1/72 and smaller (Superdetailed) A06 Military, jets / props, 1/48 (Standard kit) A07 Military, jets / props, 1/48 (Any Source Detailed) A08 Military, jets / props, 1/48 (Superdetailed) A09 Military, jets / props, 1/32 and larger (Standard kit) A10 Military, jets / props, 1/32 and larger (Any source detailed) A11 Military, jets / props, 1/32 and larger (Superdetailed) A12 Rotary Wing, any scale A13 Vac-form and scratch-built (any scale) (V) (SB) A14 Conversions, any scale (Any source converted) Military Vehicles Class Description of Class MV01 1/72 and smaller 1 MV02 Wheeled / Tracked, 1/35 to 1/48 MV03 Scratch-built / Conversions, any scale Civilian Vehicles Class Description of Class CV01 Stock or competition cars, any scale CV02 Motorbikes, any scale CV03 Trucks, any scale CV04 Vac-form, Scratch-built or conversions, any scale Figures Class Description of Class F01 54mm F02 90mm / 120mm / Busts F03 Vignettes: (2-4 full figures on a single base, any scale) Ships/Submarines Class Description of Class S01 Any scale up to 1/450 (Standard kit) S02 Any scale up to 1/450 S03 Any scale above 1/450 (Standard kit) S04 Any scale above 1/450 (Any Source Detailed) S F & and Fantasy Class Description of Class SF01 Vehicles (any scale, any type) SF02 Figures (any scale, any type) Dioramas Class Description of Class D01 Aircraft Diorama D02 Military Vehicle Diorama D03 Figure Diorama (5 or more figures on a scenic base) D04 Ship Diorama D06 Space, Sci-Fi, Fantasy D07 Miscellaneous (including Civilian Vehicles) Miscellaneous and Humour Class Description of Class MH01 Any model which does not fit in a category above or of humorous nature The only categories which were included in Cork but not on the list are the Warhammer classes While there may be some slight alterations the the list above before October, any changes will be agreed by the committee prior to being notified on the forum. Hope this helps Regards
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There you go guys....... (thanks - James and Vincent for your help)
Anyhow, I would appreciate any constructive comments - from any member of IPMS IRELAND - on what should go in the classes this time around.
I take the point about the 1/144 military class, and also the expansion of the single rotary wing class, which I have to say seem sensible. As Competition Secretary, I will include consideration of these in my recommendations to the National Committee. As noted by Vincent, once the final decision is made, we will be posting up the details on the website.
Any suggestions, please post them here, or send them to me by e-mail (my e-mail address is listed on the contacts page of the ipmsireland.com website).
Thanks,
Philip
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Jasonb wrote:Hi Philip,
Had a look through the suggested classes and it looks to be fairly extensive, with lots of choices. One quick question though, any reason why there isn't a 1:144 class for aircraft - it's 1/72 or higher?
J.
19 07 11 Hi Jason. If you look at the category list posted by Murfv, in the aircraft section it reads: A03 Military, jets / props, 1/72 and smaller (Standard kit) A04 Military, jets / props, 1/72 and smaller (Any Source Detailed) A05 Military, jets / props, 1/72 and smaller (Superdetailed) There may still be a requirement for 1/144 Military but, as mentioned elsewhere, the committee will take it under consideration. By way of curiousity, are there many within IPMS Ireland who model 1/144? Liam
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Hi Liam, I'm always getting that mixed up - the 'and smaller' / 'and higher' naming system! I suppose what I'm saying is that the 1/72 military aircraft and the 1/144 military aircraft are in the same category. Maybe that's normal, maybe it's not, I'm very very new to all of this. And maybe there really aren't many 1/144 modellers out there ( I've done a few, I know Ken from the Dublin Branch has also done a few, I'm guessing there could be more? ). I could be wrong, but I imagine a 1/144 model in that class would have a hard time winning against a 1/72 model, purely because the 1/72 can have a much higher level of detail due to it's scale. Anyhow, it being conisdered by the committee is fine by me, I just thought I'd ask the question! :) Thanks... Jason.
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As I've never entered a competition before and when at the IMSS show in the Castle just admired the entries rather than paying much attention to the classes, I can't really comment on the categories....at leastnot much!
I think Sci-fi & Fantasy should include "Real Space" as there have been some nice releases there recently
You might want to specifically include "what-if's" in the Miscellaneous and Humour class
I think the more you specify the more interest there might be...
Approx what will the entry fee be?
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35th-scale wrote:I think Sci-fi & Fantasy should include "Real Space" as there have been some nice releases there recently
You might want to specifically include "what-if's" in the Miscellaneous and Humour class
I think the more you specify the more interest there might be...
Approx what will the entry fee be?
19 07 11 35thscale: I think maybe the adding the text 'including any kit built in fictional What-If markings or configurations' to the decription given for the Miscellaneous and Humour class description might be an idea, just to clarify what would be permitted, expanding the scope of the class without adding a new class. I might be keen on this myself as I do tend to build the occaisional What-If scheme. Entrants would have to specify that the model is a What-if though, just for clarity. And you have a point regarding Real Space. You would propse a SF03 Real Space category added to the SF/Fantasy section? That might require an amendment to the overall Class name to maybe Real Space, Science Fiction and Fantasy? Or something else that rolls off the tongue a little easier? Again, it's up to the committee, but they are interesting points. Liam
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Thanks Liam. I wasn't propsing to add any new class just expand 2 existing ones to specifically include real space in SF01 and What-ifs into MH01.
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Thanks for the postings so far, and for the two e-mails that I have received as well. This is obviously generating a bit of interest!
Jason - yes, I agree with you about the 1/144 military class - there seems to be a number of people modelling them here in Dublin in recent times, and it would indeed be a little unfair if they were lumped in with the 1/72 military classes. I dunno about folks elsewhere - are there people doing them in Limerick or Cork? In any case, it seems logical to me to have a new class, after the two civil classes on the list, for a military class in 1/144 and smaller (I have seen the odd 1/200 scale aircraft kit in the mags), and to change the "1/72 and smaller" categories into "1/72 to 1/143" (which would also catch the odd 1/96 scale plane kit out there). Would this do the job?
Sean - thanks for your comments. Nice to see that Vincent might have some competition for his various USS Enterprises! Yes, it would be important that people know what is involved in each of the classes, so as to encourage entries. The explanation should make it clear that spacecraft are either real or fictional.
Liam - interesting point about the "what if's" - I know a couple of folks who like doing "Luft 46" planes, for example, - see Vincent's Flettner a couple of months ago at the Dublin meet. However, it is a moot point whether they would be in the "miscellaneous" or in the standard "military" class. This is one to think about. What-if finishes on standard planes (such as IAC markings on a Typhoon?) might well be categorised in the relevant aircraft class - after all, even the standard kit rule allows for different markings, so presumably the markings could be fictional ones?? (I have an idea for a P-51B in IAC markings - it is just possible that we might have got ones post war, if Dev hadn't gone off on his frolic to the Nazi legation in 1945)
Anyhow, some interesting points there for consideration....
Thanks folks - keep them comin'. I'll have a lot to propose to the Committee by the end of next week.
Philip
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