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I've been thinking recently about investing in a basic airbrush and compressor setup as I'm finding it rather difficult to paint camouflage by hand and I've got some several camouflage heavy projects coming in the next year.
Here's the deal though, the compressor would have have to be quiet, because I live in an apartment building, and not terribly large for pretty much the same reason.
Any recommendations? I see Revell do a basic setup which includes an airbrush and a small compressor but I'm having a hard time finding reviews online.
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I think that Revell items are made by Badger, so there is a hint... http://www.badgerairbrush.com/I have bought Badger combo /very basic air compressor and 220NH bottom feed airbrush/ in Mark's years ago for 200ish yoyos. So the same should be cheaper now. Depends how much you want to invest, if you are looking to buy one aircompressor and keep it for life than go with auto switch, small air tank and moisture trap. You can always upgrade your airbrush once you have good air source. ...and keep away from Chinese copies of the real stuff
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About 10 years ago I bought a €70 Air Compressor, very simple, on & off switch & not much more!
No Pressure adjuster or air filters bits, literally just on & off, it's the size of a small toaster :)
Makes mediocre noise, nothing you'd need ear plugs for and a tea towel under it absorbs most of the vibration (& noise!)
I orginally had a Badger 200 & later bought a gravity fed Badger 360 Universal, I'm on my second after a mishap but I'm delighted with it!
Easy Use & even Easier maintenance!
I've never had any problems, no doubt airbrushing took a while to get the hang of but its worth it & ive never looked back!
You can only get so many result with the aul brush but airbrushing is another dimension for your modelling skills!
It'll be your best investment ever for modelling!
..just my 2 cents
Roy :)
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ive seen that revell kit in my local shop for 150 ish i think very compact and tidy looking thing...i think there are a few demo vids of it on you tube
Barry Evans
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Youtube: Revell Airbrush & CompressorWell I just watched this video on Youtube for the Revell set I mentioned and it looks very good, at least to the inexperienced. The compressor appears a bit noisy but I reckon that's because of vibration on a wooden surface, a towel should sort most of that out. That set is going for about €150 locally. Worth it?
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The airbrush coming with it looks pretty rough - and it looks like one of those Chinese copies, a few years back Badger was the one who supplied Revell their good stuff, as I've said - and you will need to replace it once you'll pass the initial excitement of airbrushing. Compressor is very basic one and, again you will need to tweak it to get steady air flow - 'curly' hose to work as a small air tank and some sort of air pressure regulator to allow you to do fine details without 'spiders'... I have bought Iwata sprint jet years ago. Not the cheapest one and I have tweaked it a bit, but it works without single hiccup even after the abuse it went through. Look online...what about this one
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FiSe wrote:Look online...what about this one Sean That is the one that I got about 2 years ago. The compressor has a water trap and a flow regulator built in, and isn't particularly noisy. The brushes are great to get you started. I used them for a year or so to get good practice, and then upgraded to a much more expensive airbrush which I purchased last year (Harder and Steinbeck). However, I still use one of the cheapos that came with the kit for spraying on primer, Future, varnishes etc. The compressor is fine, after the 2 years of use, so I would strongly recommend this one (I know it's probably made in China, and is probably reverse engineered from a US example, but hey, it's not like they are made in Ireland) I can bring it to the January Dublin Chapter meet with the brushes, if you like. (don't want to bring it next Sat, as I will be on the bus, because I want to be able to have a pint at lunchtime -  ) Cheers, Philip
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You know I think I will go ahead and order that set, looks to be great value for money. I'll leave it until after Christmas until I place the order though, I doubt it would arrive before I leave for Mountrath. No need to bring in January, the fact that you have one and it works well is good enough for me.
Any problems getting it posted over though?
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Sean
When you find out the shipping cost on that one will you let me know please as I'd be interested in it too
Thanks
Barry
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Scratch that.. I now see it's 25 squid.. Very tempting I must say
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Hi I got a good deal on ebay, for a compressor and two airbrush. I live in an apartment and I've not had any problems. I think it works really well. And the airbrush are cheap to replace. I got the one with the tank. Try this link. AIRBRUSH KIT + AIRBRUSH COMPRESSOR AIR BRUSH COMPRESSORhttp://www.ebay.ie/itm/AIRBRUSH-KIT-AIRBRUSH-COMPRESSOR-AIR-BRUSH-COMPRESSOR-/350512492297?pt=UK_Crafts_DrawingSupplies_EH&hash=item519c2c2f09 COMPLETE AIRBRUSH KIT + AIRBRUSH COMPRESSOR WITH TANKhttp://www.ebay.ie/itm/COMPLETE-AIRBRUSH-KIT-AIRBRUSH-COMPRESSOR-TANK-/350446067151?pt=UK_Crafts_DrawingSupplies_EH&hash=item5198369dcf
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Hi Guys,
Filip, whats that bit about the "curly" hose about?
Don.
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Don,
Can't remember the exact term for the - is it 'coiled' or 'twisted'? - air hose...
The idea is that if you have basic single valve air compressor without air tank - like the Iwata Sprint Jet in my link - you are not getting air supply of constant level, but rather pulsing airflow caused by the direct supply from the single valve and you are not able to regulate it.
So you can use this coiled 'curly' hose as a small air reservoir.
You will need adjustable air regulator, preferably with moisture trap. The coiled hose is connected to the air compressor on one end and to the air regulator 'IN' outlet on the other.
Than you can connect 2nd air hose - could be normal, straight - to the air regulator 'OUT' outlet and to the airbrush.
You will have to find out the right air pressure setting so it's not too low - buildup of the compressed air in the 'curly' hose could cause unwanted pressure on the air compressor and, ultimately, its departure - and it's not too high - you'd get the same pulsing air supply as before.
Basically you are using the air pressure setting to level the air delivery and to cut off the highest and lowest points in the air delivery and the air should be steadily flowing all the time.
It's very basic setup and you will not be able to open or close the pressure for larger or detailed paint jobs, but it's working and I have done quite a few models with this setup.
Hope that you'll get the idea from that above...
Filip
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I picked up an Aldi special compressor deal a couple of years ago. complete workshop system in a box. Spray-gun, airbrush,braided hose and shop machine on a wheeled frame 5 litre tank,moisture trap, regulator and cut-off back pressure switch. All for £50. It takes 3/4 minutes to fill the tank, not too quiet I grant you but you do get a good 20 minutes at medium pressure. I had to bin the gun and brush but the rest is first class. Worth watching out for. 
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Sean
I had a look through my records, and I got mine from the rgdtools people to which Ken's first posting from e-bay refers. It looks like the exact one, too! Ken might wish to comment on how good the tank, that is the one in his second posting, has been for him, given the difference in prices...
On postage, I seem to recall that it came via courier - I got a card in the door and had to collect from their depot, a couple of miles away in an industrial estate, as I was (inevitably) out when they called. Dunno how you would get it, being in an apartment block - presumably the same way? (It comes in a cardboard box, about the size of a six pack of beer, so transportable even on a bus, I'd say.)
Anyhow, if you go ahead, I'd say you will enjoy the experience! (if you are free for the second Christmas meet/drinkies (28th Dec - see Andy's topic) - I would be happy to bring it in then if you and Barry would like to see (I am likely to be in Dublin shopping with SWMBO, so will be on non-alcoholic beer/orange juice, and therefore will have the car!)
Paddy - dunno about your set-up. I've been in Aldi a couple of times, and never seen this. Do you know if it is anything like the one in Ken's second post?
Philip
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If I'm in Dublin on the 28th, which doesn't seem likely at the moment, I'll let you know. I've never used an airbrush before but the results you can get from it always seem good.
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FiSe wrote:Don,
Can't remember the exact term for the - is it 'coiled' or 'twisted'? - air hose...
The idea is that if you have basic single valve air compressor without air tank - like the Iwata Sprint Jet in my link - you are not getting air supply of constant level, but rather pulsing airflow caused by the direct supply from the single valve and you are not able to regulate it.
So you can use this coiled 'curly' hose as a small air reservoir.
You will need adjustable air regulator, preferably with moisture trap. The coiled hose is connected to the air compressor on one end and to the air regulator 'IN' outlet on the other.
Than you can connect 2nd air hose - could be normal, straight - to the air regulator 'OUT' outlet and to the airbrush.
You will have to find out the right air pressure setting so it's not too low - buildup of the compressed air in the 'curly' hose could cause unwanted pressure on the air compressor and, ultimately, its departure - and it's not too high - you'd get the same pulsing air supply as before.
Basically you are using the air pressure setting to level the air delivery and to cut off the highest and lowest points in the air delivery and the air should be steadily flowing all the time.
It's very basic setup and you will not be able to open or close the pressure for larger or detailed paint jobs, but it's working and I have done quite a few models with this setup.
Hope that you'll get the idea from that above...
Thanks Filip, That is very helpful. I'm new to airbrushing and finding the learning curve very steep indeed! Don
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I think the difference between too is. The compressor with out the tank will run then the airbrush requires air. The compressor with the tank only runs when the pressure in the tank gets low. So it’s not running all the time. I have had no problems with it and it does what I want.
As to getting it postage to an apartment. The was not a problem for me as our apartment has a concierge office that takes in post. But you could get it posted to your work.
Regards
Ken
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I have one of the e-bay compressors, I've had it for the past 4-5 years.
It came with a water trap / regulator. Works like a dream with low noise, I use it mostly at night with a sleeping child in the next room and she does not wake up. I picked up one of the Chinese AB, that was great tool to learn with. I replaced the AB about 2 years ago with a Testors Azteck. This I like a lot as I dont need to fiddle with the needle.
You are going to need something to spray into, I made a spray booth from a large plastic storage
box, a bathroom extractor fan and some plastic hose. All cost around €50, this then acts as a storage solution when it's not in use.
James
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I could use some advice guys.
I was spraying happily a while ago without any problems, everything was flowing well. All of a sudden the paint stopped flowing through the gravity feed cup and air bubbles fed through into it. Well I poured out the paint and tried with water only to get the same results. I've disassembled the airbrush and cleaned the entire needle with no change. I'm not sure what to do at this stage?
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